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the romney from massachusetts or the romney from bain or the romney from nordquist or the kneow cons? >> the interesting thing about the debate format is each candidate is going to be given a lot of time to answer some of these basic questions. that may not be good for romney. you get the sense, particularly on health care, while governor romney of 2003 could give a good ten-minute answer on health care and what he thought about it, what he wanted to do about it, what he had accomplished in massachusetts, how can mitt romney talk for five minutes on health care, even like 90 seconds without saying something that contradicts something he said the week before, the month before, that gets the base upset, that is confusing, that reporters can't quite understand? i don't know how he does it. he's tied himself into knots on this particular question. on the other side, i do know some obama aides who are a little worried that the president, who sometimes can be overly profess soral, may use the time not to his advantage either. they'd like to see more succinct answers. they each have the oppo
the romney from massachusetts or the romney from bain or the romney from nordquist or the kneow cons? >> the interesting thing about the debate format is each candidate is going to be given a lot of time to answer some of these basic questions. that may not be good for romney. you get the sense, particularly on health care, while governor romney of 2003 could give a good ten-minute answer on health care and what he thought about it, what he wanted to do about it, what he had accomplished...
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obviously mitt romney is a good debater. he made it through the primaries and has had practice this year. barack obama, debating is not his greatest strength. he's a wonderful orator and has been a successful president. i think he'll do a good job, but i think it's going to be a competitive debate. >> do you think it's going to make a big difference for mitt romney to really show himself and really for these two men to be on the same stage? >> well, that helps mitt romney to be on the same stage with the president of the united states. there's no doubt. it always helps the challenger with the incumbent. the problem, though, is i think what susan pointed out and dana pointed out is that we really don't know who mitt romney is. so the question is which mitt romney will appear on the debate stage? and that will determine whether people will believe whatever candidate shows up at that time. >> all right. dana, real fast, though, president obama has a lot on his agenda. starting tomorrow, he's going to be here in new york city. a
obviously mitt romney is a good debater. he made it through the primaries and has had practice this year. barack obama, debating is not his greatest strength. he's a wonderful orator and has been a successful president. i think he'll do a good job, but i think it's going to be a competitive debate. >> do you think it's going to make a big difference for mitt romney to really show himself and really for these two men to be on the same stage? >> well, that helps mitt romney to be on...
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romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain.
romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to...
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. thank you. >> wow. you know things are bad when a nominee has to remind people he's the one on the top of the ticket. suddenly, this reunion is not feeling so good. joining me now is nia-malika henderson, a reporter for "the washington post," and ryan grim, reporter for "the huffington post." thanks for being here. >> great to be here, rev. >> nia, i've been around politics since i was a teenager, i've never seen anything that bad where the nominee had to stop the crowd and put his name out front. i mean, this is a little crazy, don't you think? >> and you've seen this before. you've seen people, you know, sort of tripping up on romney's name, calling him mitt romney. you've seen him on "60 minutes" rep minding that he's the one on the ticket running for president. ryan has energized this ticket. barack conservatives on board. now you have conservatives saying, unleash ryan and have him talk more about policy and his plans for the future of the country. but it has been a bit of a sticky situation. the a
romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. thank you. >> wow. you know things are bad when a nominee has to remind people he's the one on the top of the ticket. suddenly, this reunion is not feeling so good. joining me now is nia-malika henderson, a reporter for "the washington post," and ryan grim, reporter for "the huffington post." thanks for being here. >> great to be here, rev. >> nia, i've been around politics since i was a teenager, i've...
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romney does. how does romney record sell out when his own running mate has said that this is what people do? >> in fairness to mr. romney, he also hides his money in other places like the bahamas or switzerland. you know, what seems to be the larger indictment here is not that romney is not paying his fair share but under our absurd tax code, that's what people consider to be fair. it's not that something illegal happened here. the scandal is entirely illegal. in fact, it look like he paid more tacks than he had to so his real rate wouldn't be 11%. and then you have him on record defending the way -- >> that's the point, dana. certainly i wasn't saying that he was doing something that was illegal. >> exactly. right. >> when he says it's fair, that he's paying a lower rate than 60% of americans and even though his wealth makes him part of the 0.0025% s. it fair? it's legal but is it fair? >> exactly. >> and he's advocating this. >> right. and that is sort of the definition of scandal in washington.
romney does. how does romney record sell out when his own running mate has said that this is what people do? >> in fairness to mr. romney, he also hides his money in other places like the bahamas or switzerland. you know, what seems to be the larger indictment here is not that romney is not paying his fair share but under our absurd tax code, that's what people consider to be fair. it's not that something illegal happened here. the scandal is entirely illegal. in fact, it look like he...
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romney and mr. ryan are saying it's the president who are into social divisiveness. they are the ones splitting the countries between the have and have nots. they're the one playing the wealth disparity card. >> well, quite the opposite. you know i was a psychologist before i was a political person. in psychology we say that sometimes if someone's got a problem, that they tend to talk about it in ways that is very contradictory to their own feelings. the fact is that mitt romney said 47% of the american people basically are free-loaders parasites. he was talking about good hard working, salt of the earth, ohioans, americans. that started a narrative that built up over a series of months as we watched this man and watched this campaign. and that video confirmed for many ohioans exactly what they were thinking this man may be like. and he can say all he wants to say about class warfare, but he's the one waging it. you know he pays 14.1% in federal income tax. the average ohioan pays more than 20% in f
romney and mr. ryan are saying it's the president who are into social divisiveness. they are the ones splitting the countries between the have and have nots. they're the one playing the wealth disparity card. >> well, quite the opposite. you know i was a psychologist before i was a political person. in psychology we say that sometimes if someone's got a problem, that they tend to talk about it in ways that is very contradictory to their own feelings. the fact is that mitt romney said 47%...
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. that's great. thank you. >> meanwhile congressman ryan a big green bay packers fan vented about that call on monday night football. went on to compare the nfl's replacement refs, yes, to the obama administration. >> i got to start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night. did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. i half think that these refs work part-time for the obama administration in the budget office. trying to pick the winners and losers and they don't even do that very well. unlike the seattle seahawks last night, we want to deserve this victory. >> vice president joe biden meanwhile has beenle holding mock debate sessions with chris van holland and campaigned yesterday in the state of virginia, keeping romney's comments about the 47% in his line of attack. >> he attacks the 47% of the american people who he says paid no federal taxes. and he attacks, he, romney, attacking someone on taxes? woah. that's like me attacking someone for being
romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. that's great. thank you. >> meanwhile congressman ryan a big green bay packers fan vented about that call on monday night football. went on to compare the nfl's replacement refs, yes, to the obama administration. >> i got to start off on something that was really troubling that occurred last night. did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. i half think that these refs work part-time for the obama...
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>> romney is a strikeout. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >> it is a big day in the big apple. >> president obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >> i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. >> then there was mitt romney. >> the few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. >> if he's going to double down on that 47, that will cause difficulties. >> wait a couple of days for that bounce. >> he has no past that i can ever spot. >> i can appreciate your kind words. >> when i was a boy i used to think that becoming rich and becoming famous would make me happy. boy, was i right. >> yeah, he said that. with just 42 days until the presidential election and with a new poll showing mitt romney's path to the presidency rapidly narrowing, paul ryan is rapidly realizing that he is well on his way to becoming the next losing vice president candidate. so he is desperately trying to avoid the stench of romney. yes, the stench. th
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romney referring to 47% of americans as victims. interview last night with "60 minutes" romney was asked about his comments on that video and about whether his campaign was in need of a little repair. >> a lot of republicans would like to know a lot of your donors would like to know how do you turn this thing around? >> well it doesn't need a turn around. we have a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign that's doing a very good job but not everything i say is elegant. i want to make it very clear, i want to help 100% of the american people. >> republican governor scott walker meanwhile of wisconsin, said he'd like romney's campaign to recapture the same energy it had after paul ryan was first announced as the running mate. >> i want to see more passion. certainly in part it is a referendum on this president there is no doubt. but i think in most americans there's a lot of independent swing voters they want to know what's wrong with this president, but they want to
romney referring to 47% of americans as victims. interview last night with "60 minutes" romney was asked about his comments on that video and about whether his campaign was in need of a little repair. >> a lot of republicans would like to know a lot of your donors would like to know how do you turn this thing around? >> well it doesn't need a turn around. we have a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy we saw on "60 minutes." he's been forced to run this eternal primary where he's constantly trying to please the farthest right base of the republican party and so he isn't really being allowed to make what is supposed to be a pivot to a general election candidacy. so i think the problem really is partly that. then they've tried to pull romney into the ryan mold. they vnld allowed ryan to do what he was picked to do, which is talks on policy because they understand that would be even more unpopular than what they're putting out there right now? >> is it that
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy...
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romney's message than mr. romney does at his own rallies. at the same time, there was a satire in politico and it's been fueling speculation that the romney/ryan relationship is strained. >>> joan meg now, the author of that piece, chief political columnist for politico, roger simon. i thought it was pretty funny but some readers were confused that your piece was a satire. let me read an excerpt. reportedly, ryan has been marching around his campaign bus saying things like, if stench call, take a message, and tell stench i'm having finger sandwiches with peggy noonan and i'll text him later. politico added a editor's note clarifying about the satire, but i know some readers were indeed confused. tell me about what's been going on with this piece. the point and the reaction. >> sure. the point is that i didn't invent the word stench. i think if i had called mitt romney mr. stench it would have been in bad taste and i would never have done it. the fact is that word that phrase comes from the former political director of the iowa republican par
romney's message than mr. romney does at his own rallies. at the same time, there was a satire in politico and it's been fueling speculation that the romney/ryan relationship is strained. >>> joan meg now, the author of that piece, chief political columnist for politico, roger simon. i thought it was pretty funny but some readers were confused that your piece was a satire. let me read an excerpt. reportedly, ryan has been marching around his campaign bus saying things like, if stench...
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. >> he's having to introduce them there to his name and his running mate's name. >> they were getting the hang of it. >> it was good. it's a bit of a problem though, isn't it, because some of his advisers are actually saying their internal polling shows that they're still in this fight and yet all the published polling that we have access to suggests that things are slipping away. >> that's right. and a lot has been made, you know, we have the debates coming up, they could be pivotal and they certainly could be but we've heard that in the past. his vice presidential pick was supposed to dang the dynamics. his speech at the rnc was supposed to change the dynamics. all these pivot points have actually gone in the other direction. i think voters are getting locked into their decision ahead of the debates. it's hard to imagine mitt romney having such a stellar debate performance that he could really turn this thing around. >> are you sensing there's almost a rhythm of failure
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romney/ryan. romney/ryan. there you go. >> governor romney says that 47% of americans will vote for president obama because they are dependent on the government. this has sparked a lot of reaction obviously. what did he really mean by that? >> yes. he was obviously inarticulate at making this point. >> joining me in studio is msnbc contributor and daily beast columnist meghan mccain and son of the former president reagan. meghan, politico columnist wrote a satire call piece about romney and ryan and spoke to my colleague jansing. >> paul ryan is treated like a surrogate. he doesn't get to choose his own staff. he has a staff loyal to mitt romney around him every minute. he is told what to say and told what to do. that's fine as long as romney is winning. but romney is not winning. he's losing. and that unleashes the presidential candidate to act in his or her own way to unleash sarah palin to start attacking barack obama more. >> so meghan, as we all know. your dad certainly dealt with tensions within the tick
romney/ryan. romney/ryan. there you go. >> governor romney says that 47% of americans will vote for president obama because they are dependent on the government. this has sparked a lot of reaction obviously. what did he really mean by that? >> yes. he was obviously inarticulate at making this point. >> joining me in studio is msnbc contributor and daily beast columnist meghan mccain and son of the former president reagan. meghan, politico columnist wrote a satire call piece...
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romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasn't always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950's sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing crowds the alpha dog appears to be getting tired of reminding people who is the campaign pate tree yashg. >> i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president, not him. >> ryan doesn't always seem to get the message. in days he's been reportedly acting like a rebellious teenager going back to his old ways and giving power point presentations at campaign rallies. >> we can't keep spending money we don't have. today our federal government for every dollar it spends it borrows 36 cents on that dollar. by the time my three kids are around my age, at the top there, our debt is going to be 2.5 times t
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romney and paul ryan are intensifying their focus on swing states, romney starting today in colorado before joining paul ryan in ohio where a new poll today has president obama breaking past 50%. joining me now, chris cizilla msnbc contributor and managing editor of host politics.com. this is the biggest edge that the president has had in ohio so far. and what does it mean that the romney/ryan campaign are focusing on ohio as well, the president will be going to toledo all roads leading to ohio later this week? >> that's right. look, andrea, what it means is history is close to determinative as it relates to republicans, ohio and the presidency, which is no republican presidential candidate, no republican presidential candidate, has been elected president without winning ohio. i think the bus tour in ohio begins tomorrow with mitt romney and paul ryan is a evidence that they are clearly worried. i've talked to lots of people, so much public polling out there, some showing president obama with almost a double-digit lead. i talked to most people on the republican/democratic side who sa
romney and paul ryan are intensifying their focus on swing states, romney starting today in colorado before joining paul ryan in ohio where a new poll today has president obama breaking past 50%. joining me now, chris cizilla msnbc contributor and managing editor of host politics.com. this is the biggest edge that the president has had in ohio so far. and what does it mean that the romney/ryan campaign are focusing on ohio as well, the president will be going to toledo all roads leading to ohio...
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bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he would have said, look, the first two years, that was the problem of the president's predecessor. you can't blame him for that. but the last two years, that's obama's. there were ways for him to deal with it. but frankly, it was a very, very difficult legacy for, i think any republican, romney or anyone, to have to deal. >> the romney campaign said it wants to make the election about the economy, and initially it really tried to do that. but polls show that now americans, as you mentioned, tend to assign more blame to bush than to obama when it comes to that issue. 68% say bush should get a great deal or mode
bush if we vote for romney. >> how could the romney campaign, or how can the romney campaign, how can it distance itself from the ghost of g.w.? >> i think if they would have gone in and dealt with immediately and honestly from the beginning, they wouldn't have had a campaign that said, to try to pin the entire four years of the economy on president obama. they would know that average people understand, he came in with a huge burden, a collapsing economy, and they would have -- he...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
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that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country who do not make millions of dollars but certainly deserve a voice. thank you very much, roger. a pleasure having you on. the possible impact of the debates is part of the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that debuts tonight on "nightly news." how important will the presidential debates be in helping you decide who to support for president? 38% said extremely, while the majority, 62%, said somewhat and not much. mark murray, is that in line with what we've seen when that question is posed before? >> it's an increase in the people that say it's important to them and their vote than we saw in 2004 and 2000. you could make the argument people are paying more attention to the debates than in the past. however, i would stress that 60%, 6 in 10 say this won't impact my vote that much. as we've seen in survey after survey, the numbe
that's not mitt romney's view. i think it is difficult to sell his view to a majority of voters. >> we will see tomorrow how he explains that comment and his view for the rest of the country who do not make millions of dollars but certainly deserve a voice. thank you very much, roger. a pleasure having you on. the possible impact of the debates is part of the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that debuts tonight on "nightly news." how important will the presidential...
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romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts here, chris, were not as aggressive as obama's. >> i guess it's too early. we've never had a campaign like this, so we'll see if these kinds of numbers actually have any relationship to getting people to the polls. >> the first social media campaign, they say. right? >> fascinating stuff. thank you so much, richard. >>> and that does wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. >> good morning. mitt romney sets aside fund-raising for actual campaigning. with only 43 days left, can romney reveal his true core
romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts...
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romney gained the tax code. he basically picked his own tax rate and accountants played around with deductions to hit the pre-determined rate near 14%. would you take it? meanwhile, romney won't explain the specifics of his tax plan for you and me. americans. >> we bring down rates, we limit deductions and exemptions to keep the code and encourage growth in jobs. >> and the devil is in the details. what are we talking about? mortgage deduction? >> the devil is in the detail, the angel is in the policy which is creating more jobs. >> tax cuts for the rich do not create jobs. this is the top marginal tax rate from 1948 to 2010. you be the judge. it's gone down quite a bit. here's unemployment over the same period. it's very hard to argue lower taxes do anything worthwhile for jobs, but romney's plan is even worse than this. not only will rich people get tax breaks, the only way to pay for them is on the backs of the middle class and everybody else. every wage earner out there. you can serve up a little more can't
romney gained the tax code. he basically picked his own tax rate and accountants played around with deductions to hit the pre-determined rate near 14%. would you take it? meanwhile, romney won't explain the specifics of his tax plan for you and me. americans. >> we bring down rates, we limit deductions and exemptions to keep the code and encourage growth in jobs. >> and the devil is in the details. what are we talking about? mortgage deduction? >> the devil is in the detail,...
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are in mitt romney's camp. please them or be rationale. >> i thought as i was watching his convention speech, going along, saying he's doing a good job, this is an a-minus, b-plus speech, and then he veered into foreign policy in the last few seconds and it was scary as can be. the tone he took about iran, tone about russia, we're going to reinstate the cold war, third war in asia on the ground against iran, i was thinking of independent voters saying oh, my gosh, this guy has lost me. >> no appetite for that. >> that fits in with this broader narrative that mitt romney has tried to further about the president being weak on, you know, on american interests. you've written a book called a nation woosts, but we can't close out the show without mentioning it. the idea that somehow the president is apologizing for america -- mitt romney said it again today and jonathan, my favorite part, he was making this big point about the bigness of the american heart and bigness of the american spirit and the next line was and
are in mitt romney's camp. please them or be rationale. >> i thought as i was watching his convention speech, going along, saying he's doing a good job, this is an a-minus, b-plus speech, and then he veered into foreign policy in the last few seconds and it was scary as can be. the tone he took about iran, tone about russia, we're going to reinstate the cold war, third war in asia on the ground against iran, i was thinking of independent voters saying oh, my gosh, this guy has lost me....
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that's the good news for mitt romney. if he exploits the debates to his favor and increases his standard beyond that of obama, he will fit right in. the bad news, romney has to beat obama to do it. and what a big night for politics, history and our bloled country. that's "hardball" for now. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, america. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. 43 days until the 2012 election. only nine days until the first presidential debate. mitt romney thinks it's fair to pay a smaller tax rate than americans who earn $50,000 a year? you like that? this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> what's your big idea? >> freedom. >> now we know. mitt romney loves freedom and he loves his low tax rate. >> you think it is fair? >> yeah, i think it's the right way to encourage economic growth. >> tonight, richard wolf on mitt romn romney's definition of fair and dean baker on romney's ability to game the tax code with chinese investments. >> my expectation would be in the crunch in october, governo
that's the good news for mitt romney. if he exploits the debates to his favor and increases his standard beyond that of obama, he will fit right in. the bad news, romney has to beat obama to do it. and what a big night for politics, history and our bloled country. that's "hardball" for now. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, america. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. 43 days until the 2012 election. only nine days until the first...
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romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. >>> pregnant women exposed to air pollution may be putting their unborn baby in a short supply of vitamin dchlt. they had a higher risk than those who were not exposed. the association was strongest when exposure occurred during the third trimester. >>> defending her man. ann romney how snow says she wa briefly worried over the sharp tongue she used last week. last night appear on jay leno's "tonight show," mrs. romney was asked about her "stop it" remark on radio. >
romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what...
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yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this line yesterday, they tried to hammer obama on taxes. take a listen. >> he's got one new idea. i admit this. he has one thing he did not do in his first four years he said he's going to do in the next four years which is to raise taxes. is there anybody who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? >> no. >> ryan's expression back there when he looks over at portman, kind of intriguing. it would be curious what a thought bubble would be going on over there. but it's a little bit of a change for romney. he had often been a
yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this...
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by only three percentage points over ann romney's m&m cookies. and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." >>> and now here's your first look at how wall street's going to kick off the day. the dow closed at 13,515 after adding 77 points yesterday. the s&p was up 3, but the nasdaq lost 2. taking a look at overseas trading this morning, in tokyo, the nikkei fell 10 points while in hong kong, the hang seng was closed again for a holiday. >>> well, stocks ended mostly in the black monday thanks to a glimmer of economic optimism. news that manufacturing growth broke a four-month roadblock sparked an upbeat mood on the street. fed chief ben bernanke renewed the central bank's pledge to keep record low interest rates to spur the economy, even after it regains momentum. >>> analysts say winter holiday shopping will rise 4.1% this year. that's slightly lower than predictions for the past two years. >>> jpmorgan chase is the first target of a justice department investigation into the financial crisis. a civil lawsuit alleges bear stearns, bought
by only three percentage points over ann romney's m&m cookies. and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." >>> and now here's your first look at how wall street's going to kick off the day. the dow closed at 13,515 after adding 77 points yesterday. the s&p was up 3, but the nasdaq lost 2. taking a look at overseas trading this morning, in tokyo, the nikkei fell 10 points while in hong kong, the hang seng was closed again for a holiday. >>> well,...
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here is david letterman on the release of romney's tax returns. >> mitt romney released his 2011 tax returns, and that's not all. take a look. >> last week republican presidential candidate mitt romney released his 2011 income taxes and after numerous requests mitt has also decided to release his tax forms from the last 20 years. >> there you go. >> i'm mitt romney. i approve this message. >> jimmy kimmel took on romney's attempt to convince voters he can empathize with struggling americans in the aftermath of those comments on the 47% of americans he said don't even take care of their lives. >> too many americans are struggling to find work in today's economy. too many of those who are working are living paycheck to paycheck. more americans are living in poverty than when president obama took off, and 15 million more are on food stamps. my plan will create 12 million new jobs over the next four years. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare and get a good paying job. i'm mitt romne
here is david letterman on the release of romney's tax returns. >> mitt romney released his 2011 tax returns, and that's not all. take a look. >> last week republican presidential candidate mitt romney released his 2011 income taxes and after numerous requests mitt has also decided to release his tax forms from the last 20 years. >> there you go. >> i'm mitt romney. i approve this message. >> jimmy kimmel took on romney's attempt to convince voters he can empathize...
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romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who don't think that this is one of the most damning ads out there. this is one that's going to stick around. how in the world? because you put these words to faces. rich, how does the romney camp counter this? >> i think you can't. you can't counter it. you just have to try to change the discussion. i mean, four years ago when the president then senator obama made that bone-headed remark about pennsylvanians he went on to win pennsylvania in the general election. so these things have sort of a half life. and we'll see whether it still
romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. let's check the hardball scoring board. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is r
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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we've had businessman romney. foreign policy romney. latino romney. but we still haven't seen aqua romney. >> well, maybe that's not a bad idea. it is looking increasingly like mitt romney needs to do something to catch president obama in key toss-up states including ohio where both candidates are campaigning today. in the latest "the new york times"/quinnipiac poll has the president up ten points in the buckeye state. "the washington post" poll had him up by eight. the president pulled ahead in florida and pennsylvania, as well. drastic times call for drastic measures. the romney campaign is out with a new ad and just romney and the came camera. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. >> but that is a tough sell with middle class voters who believe romney's economic policies only benefit the rich. is it time for romney 4.0? so, i dug in to this quinnipiac poll and a few things that were interesting and struck me. first of all, there's so many people have
we've had businessman romney. foreign policy romney. latino romney. but we still haven't seen aqua romney. >> well, maybe that's not a bad idea. it is looking increasingly like mitt romney needs to do something to catch president obama in key toss-up states including ohio where both candidates are campaigning today. in the latest "the new york times"/quinnipiac poll has the president up ten points in the buckeye state. "the washington post" poll had him up by eight....
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. thank you. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring um newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god, pray for us sinners now and in thy hour of peace? >> no. it's other. >> i just did bad having gone to catholic high school. it's in the end of "godfather 2." >> how do you fix it? >> you don't fix it. he's a great man. he's a great father, great husband, great businessman, great turnaround guy. if i had a business anywhere in the world, e'd have him run it. he's just -- he's a horrible politician. he's one of the worst. he's great guy. i just want to say, he's a great, gate, guy, but, man, ed rendell, you know it. great guy. >> mitt romney when i knew him as governor of massachusetts was smart, competent, confident. >> so you think he could be worked with if he had the right team around him? >> well, i think they tried to make him into something he's not, and when that
romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go. thank you. >> oh, sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring um newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god, pray for us sinners now and in thy hour of peace? >> no. it's other. >> i just did bad having gone to catholic high school. it's in the end of "godfather 2." >> how do you fix...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his we'll be right back. >>> there's an attempt on the right wing to delegitimatize president obama, an attempt to declare our president not really an american. >> i would like to have him show his birth certificate. >> i wish this president would learn how to how to be an american. >> no one's asked for my birth certificate. >> this talk and false welfare ads is what president obama faces in the next 41 days. alex wagner host of "now" on msnbc and eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post." thanks for joining us tonight.
mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the...
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we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted kennedy, which lowered the expectations. what you're saying is the president is a well-organized campaign. all these messages aren't coming out by themselves. they're pushing them out. he has the power. si. he's invested in a ground game in 12 states. in north carolina, with early voting, 12,000 people have already voted. on gameday, 747,000 people voted for obama and a million -- for mccain. organization matters and the way the earned media is going matters. a lot of the ideas that romney is behind is the president has a pretty good campaign. >> certainly not a bad one. >> we have ground game. but he's running a pretty good campaign. >> n
we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted...
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be romney. the problem is let romney be romney, is that there is no romney to be. >> he's been flailing around trying to prove that he cares about 100% of the population for a week now. let's listen to one of his least eloquent defenders makes the case. >> i know some of you people are not excited about romney. but the bottom line is folks, i don't care who you are, if you are a gay, one-armed amputee on the upper west side, there's not one thing mitt romney has done to you yet. and there's not one thing mitt romney plans on doing to you. but whatever your economic circumstance is, mitt romney has had nothing to do with it. >> so bob reich, i guess he's right there for every gay one-armed a.m. u tea on the upper west side of manhattan. >> i can make almost less sense of that than i can make of mitt romney. there is a choice that has to be made. republicans are going to be making that choice. and the question, the narrative that is going to be coming out over the next few weeks is the problem her
be romney. the problem is let romney be romney, is that there is no romney to be. >> he's been flailing around trying to prove that he cares about 100% of the population for a week now. let's listen to one of his least eloquent defenders makes the case. >> i know some of you people are not excited about romney. but the bottom line is folks, i don't care who you are, if you are a gay, one-armed amputee on the upper west side, there's not one thing mitt romney has done to you yet. and...
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mitt romney contradicted once again, mitt romney. and in the rewrite tonight, the things paul ryan can't say anymore thanks to mitt romney. for example, paul ryan never talks about the cayman islands anymore. and he used to talk about the cayman islands. and tomorrow is the last day that crazy congressman todd akin can drop out of the senate race whichever republican including mitt romney wants him to do. so why was newt gingrich at todd akin's side today urging him to stay in. newt can't stop making trouble for mitt. that's coming up. your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. keys, keys, keys, keys, keys. ♪ well, he's not very handsome ♪ to look at [ sighs ] ♪ oh, he's shaggy ♪ and he eats like a hog [ male announcer ] the volkswagen jetta. available with advanced keyless technology. control everything from your pocket, purse
mitt romney contradicted once again, mitt romney. and in the rewrite tonight, the things paul ryan can't say anymore thanks to mitt romney. for example, paul ryan never talks about the cayman islands anymore. and he used to talk about the cayman islands. and tomorrow is the last day that crazy congressman todd akin can drop out of the senate race whichever republican including mitt romney wants him to do. so why was newt gingrich at todd akin's side today urging him to stay in. newt can't stop...
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romney -- it's not just romney, seriously. but romney is very flawed on this issue. this country needs to come to grips that you can't go into poor neighborhoods and raise property taxes and expect that all the education problems are going to be fixed in america. we have to federally fund public education, no child left behind, the money never showed up to the districts around the country. conservatives don't want to fund it and the democrats don't have the political power to make sure that it gets done. so that's why we have failing schools in this country. for the first time in 25 years, the teachers in chicago went on strike. they didn't go on strike because they thought they were getting screwed when it came to a paycheck. they went on strike because they wanted to make sure that every classroom was properly resourced and every kid had a fighting chance to make it in america. mitt romney, if you want to draw the line here, really made the case for the 47% in education today, don't you think? he's willing to admit that some kids are just going to fail and we'll ju
romney -- it's not just romney, seriously. but romney is very flawed on this issue. this country needs to come to grips that you can't go into poor neighborhoods and raise property taxes and expect that all the education problems are going to be fixed in america. we have to federally fund public education, no child left behind, the money never showed up to the districts around the country. conservatives don't want to fund it and the democrats don't have the political power to make sure that it...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail toeshgs a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his comment, legitimate rape, in an ad. >> todd akin in his own words. on march 18, 2011, todd akin said he didn't like socia
mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail toeshgs a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies...
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romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's...
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do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded but we're left with hundreds of hours of secret discussions that lifted the veil on how president kennedy handled the crucial moments of his presidency. they are the subject of the new book "listening in the secret white house records of john f. kennedy." ted compiled the selections in this and joins us now. great to have you on set. >> thank you. >> an audio book and fascinating one at that. first and foremost we were talking about this during the break why the microphones everywhere? >> other presidents had taped conversations but to a smaller degree. fdr, truman and e
do you this fellow romney? have you met romney? george romney? >> only casually. >>> 50 years ago, another romney was on the mind of the top democrat in the white house, and the clip you heard president kennedy is trying to gauge the political viability of mitt romney's father george romney. the conversation with douglas mccar thur was picked up by hidden microphones kennedy ordered installed in 1962. it's not clear why kennedy wanted his meetings and phone conversations recorded...
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it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a better candidate for the middle class. 53% for president obama, thinking he's better for the middle class. romney, 43. and then you go to the president, who will the president do more to favor? middle class, wealthy, 66% say middle class. 17% say wealthy. who will mitt romney do more to favor? 35% say middle class, 57% say wealthy. how does romney overcome this overwhelming view that he is going to serve the wealthy and he doesn't serve or care about the middle class? >> i think romney has to be able to be accessible, number
it's romney himself. i think in the debates romney has two big problems that he's got to try to overcome. one is mathematics. he's got to show what loophole he's going to close. the second is authenticity. he's got to show that authentically he's someone that cares about average working people. he hasn't done both. he's losing ground because of both problems. >> when you look at the new gallup poll, be for example, it shows that the majority of americans think that the president is a...
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earlier governor romney tried cozying up to bill clinton, but clinton says romney's caught on camera moment will be a problem for romney in the october debates. >> if he's going to double down on that 47%, that will cause difficulties because we now know that the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> over a week later, and that secret tape still hurts. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and democratic strategist tad devine, senior adviser for kerry and gore campaigns. thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. >> tad, let me start with you. it's been over a week since the tape came out. the president, joe biden, now bill clinton are all still hammering. how damaging is this 47% comment? >> reverend, i think it was terribly damaging. what happened with that tape was after months and months of the obama campaign in battleground state after state, running ads and telling people that mitt romney doesn't care about them, mitt romney came forward himself and confirmed those attacks. there's nothing more devastating and nothing more power
earlier governor romney tried cozying up to bill clinton, but clinton says romney's caught on camera moment will be a problem for romney in the october debates. >> if he's going to double down on that 47%, that will cause difficulties because we now know that the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> over a week later, and that secret tape still hurts. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and democratic strategist tad devine, senior...
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mitt romney contradicted once again, mitt romney. and in the rewrite tonight, the things paul ryan can't say anymore thanks to mitt romney. for example, paul ryan never talks about the cayman islands anymore. and he used to talk about the cayman islands. and tomorrow is the last day that crazy congressman todd akin can drop out of the senate race whichever republican including mitt romney wants him to do. so why was newt gingrich at todd akin's side today urging him to stay in. newt can't stop...